. >> does this give the secretary of state the cover that she needs from the obama care situation right now? >> well, look, you know, i think that one of the big problems -- i think, look, bill clinton is the best strategist that the democrats have right now so i think he was essentially acknowledging the risks that many democrats face right now, being so closely associated with some of the mistakes of obama care. but in reality, i think that a.b. has a really good point, which is that he is actually going to be somebody who helps drive the wedge between president obama and hillary clinton but i think that van has a good point in the sense that there's really not a whole lot that can be done to really separate the two, and it could become a very -- a big problem if hillary looks like she's trying to run away from obama in a democratic primary. >> everyone is right but i'm not going to stop that here. i want to play a clip of something rush limbaugh has said which is getting a lot of attention, talking about pope francis, and pope francis' comments about capitalism. let's listen. >> some